That’s what you said. And we’ve had
it with you before it even goes
any further than that.
That plan includes an implementation plan and
we present that to the county
in the spring and we hope that all
the county commissioners sign off on it.
Because then bubbled up. That’s
the process. OK so the exercise
is about ten of six think I’d like
to spend like 10 15 minutes …(Skip that part)
on one question. We used this
last night and we found that we were
hearing a lot of the same things as
far as like people’s favorite places.
So we know that we know the top hits.
We know the Broadway hits of Collier County.
In your opinion I’d love to
hear what you feel makes it unique
and what are some of those hidden gems
around the county that are arts and
culture related that we may not have
heard of.
I’d love for everyone in this room
to say at least one thing.
Who wants to start.
Obviously (unintelligible)
That is a huge thing. Yes it is. And I think
what makes us special culturally, I’m sure you’ve
heard so many areas that are popping up.
The Design District.
Bayshore district, definitely. OK. That seem
to be taking us back to where
we used to be. What do you mean by that back
to where we used to be? 10 years ago, COLLIER COUNTY,
Naples specifically has changed considerably. OK.
Probably the past five years. OK.
And I think different factors have
moved into the area. And it’s just changed
the vision. It’s not the same kind of friendly
Midwest urban culture. It’s going back
to being more friendlier? Is it a good thing?. Yes.
Because I think some of these areas
are making it the more comfortable place
it used to be where you don’t feel you have
to get dressed up every time you
go as you you go and meet friends after
work or you know if your shorts
on a Saturday or whatever. So I’ve
certainly noticed that in the past year. OK.
Would anyone like to add to that.
I sense that around 10 to 12 years
ago there was a big push on Bay Shore
arts district when it was designated
as an arts district. But nothing really
was happening. Just very slow and I
know it takes time to do all that stuff.
Obviously the botanical garden became
an anchor. We always knew that
would be a celebration part. It’s very
much like what she’s just talked
about but there was always a plan.
There had been a plan 10 years ago to
really have much more of an
arts district with performing arts as well
as visual arts
stores that sold everything from ballet
shoes to to arts kinds of materials
and you know I think because of Rebecca Maddux
we’re getting someplace but it’s
just been there has been a slow slog.
Yes. But do you feel there’s some momentum
in that direction and that direction
is positive in your opinion.
Because I actually my company is working
with manager (unintelligible)
Incorporated a free aspect of membership
aspect of the visual arts district.
I think the momentum is much better.
I think you’re seeing more art certainly
the growth of the murals has been a huge big plus.
It would be nice if the county
would actually loosen that up a little bit, and let us
actually do something that made it
A destination. As far as the comes involved?
it could be a place like that.
OK so I love the murals and I live in,
northern, I lived up in Mediterra
Until three years ago and never
ever came down to botanical gardens.
And what a great hidden gem for me. Yeah, And these are
hidden gems that you think maybe
we haven’t heard of.
Okay I can tell you we’ve heard of the
botanical garden, we’ve heard of the zoo.
We’ve heard of Robert’s ranch we’ve heard
of Artists Naples we’ve heard of
Gulf Shore Players
The celebration of Art. Celebration Art.
Opera Naples opera Naples. Mark?
Cambier Park and Naples Art association
as an identity proponent of Naples
Naples Art Association (unintelligible)
Because I volunteer’d there.
Yes. And I saw you last night and there’s
one of these going on there right
now. Correct. Yeah. When you talk about hidden
gems, ones that potential hidden gems
OK, potential hidden gems. And that little gem is that
land that’s on Bayshore that could contain an art center
Performing visual, and the opportunity for that to benefit (unintelligible)
synergy that could exist there.
for fusing laws over the lake for communication
trollies for botanical garden and an arts center and 360.
So this isn’t a dream gem. This is also something
that’snbeen talked about and been surveyed
for 10 to 12 years. You know where
bicycle paths are making it a pedestrian
walkway and lots of restaurants and
much of what she was talking about.
There have always been plans for galleries.
So I’m going to call this one
not a hidden potential gem because we definitely
have heard this.Its not hidden it’s not
there. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a desire.
It’s a desire. I think so. Some of
the things that I’m talking about may not
even be art with a capital “A”.
So for instance we learned that there
is this amazing like producers group
of artisans and food makers
out in Immokalee working at the
culinary accelerator, and we consider culinary
arts part of the arts community.
We didn’t know that and we
were blown away when we got there.
I would consider that to be a hidden gem.
Also the areas of … Shirley?
Shirley Street, the arts district. Ok? Hidden gem?
I suspect there’s also … I hope there is,
Used to hear about it (unintelligible)
There used to be a lot of film makers that we’re
interested in the facility and they did they developed
film and there is a community here. I know
virtually nothing about it but they
are looking for facility share to really develop
film and to do, you know, real productions. OK.
OK. Any other gems before we move on to the next? YEAH?
I have a hidden gem. Can I speak to that?
You Can.
That’s why I came here tonight
I’m from Lee County but I’m working
under a grant from the Southwest Florida
community foundation from Sarah Owen and the
City of Fort Myers and the
City of Fort Myers asked me if
I could establish civil rights for visual
art artists and art history based on
art history and that’s based on the
fact I invented ways to recycle the
artist paint material and as painting.
So these programs have not been initiated
yet but they’re before the government
in the city of Fort
Myers and I’m bringing them here.
So that’s on the horizon. Yes potential.
Yeah it’s happening now. I represent
the Rauschenberg conceptual legacy.
Jay Dellinger the director of the Rauschenberg
gallery made me a part of
the Rauschenberg conceptual legacy in July. This
past March he made me environmentalist
and I had to assert my
grant as an American Revolutionary. Because academia
and the civil culture centered aren’t
allowed to recognize new art history
in painting.
If so I’m asserting myself as
a citizen but as an American Revolutionary
With plans to establish sustainability
and recycling and social practice
for painting but also civil rights
for art, artists and art history based on art history.
Great, so its a progressive program that also,
I don’t know what the right word is…
Also the recognition of new classifications of artists
such as metaphysician, Oculus, which is the
philosophy of the elements of visual perception.
Genius… So expanding the nomenclature. Yes.
All these things have been oppressed
by the government and academia
since 1979. I have a unique education.
I was educated by the academic warlock
Bill Nolan, a photographic memory at the Atlanta College of Art.
OK.
a test for artificial intelligence
that’s happening here in this area.
That’s blowing my mind a little bit so I might need.
I’m here. OK.
I was just going to mention that Collier County (unintelligible)
But that’s, yeah. But Collier County Museum.
People aren’t really aware of it.
Maybe because of where it’s located
which is why this complex
but it’s very useful and I suspect
it’s probably not hidden but the Rose Museum
and the Holocaust museum.
I think are very strong cultural. Strong
And maybe not on the top everybody’s radar?
That’s kind of what I mean by hidden.
The other thing that makes Collier County
unique is a lack of science education.
There’s no science museum, no science and technology
and with all the focus on STEM
Science Technology Engineering and Math is a
huge gap. It’s hands on learning.
Yeah they got enough. I mean all these little cities
Tallahassee and (unintelligible) have it
We don’t have anything geared towards that.
I think we’re I think we’re
unique in that.
That’s a good segway to the desired
state because that’s more of that gap.
Did you have something.
A hidden gem I feel like is greenway and freedom park.
Both kind of positioned in a high traffic area but
don’t have a necessarily, or don’t have
a Arts Association necessarily but
could become beautiful sculpture gardens or sculpture
parks or integrated into the arts or used for art purposes.
So that could be a cross platform way to integrate.
OK since I’m not covering
used as you say you will
not do anything about it.
There is no golden gate studio players.
That is something OK
You even don’t know.
Do you think you make that clear.
Tell me it’s not in Derry.
Government has not been more involved in developing things.
I mean I met up in Minneapolis
in Pittsburgh and lived in Maryland.
And government has spent money in
helping to develop things. If you take
a look at the science center you
take a look at some of these things.
The only one that they do is the history museum.
I’m not going to answer that with the
answer now but I’m going to say that
every kid every community is unique.
So you’re a big deal there. I’ll approach
it differently.
And they all have different mechanisms
and and different priorities and
different histories.
I think there’s a mindset down here
that is very different than this up
north in terms of government putting
money into it is.
I mean there are many many many county
governments we work with where arts
is a it’s a line item in the budget
there’s operating at the end of every
county that has TDC funding deals with
it a little bit differently.
So I’m not here to judge how it’s done
here I’m here to provide a platform
for decision making for them to move
forward if they want a strategic plan.
I guess we’ll put that on the platform.
OK you can put that on the platform. See
See we’re talking about the future.
If this plan is successful which it
will be what makes it successful. What is
success look like in a plan like this.
So you’re saying that I think public
private partnerships go a long way
in making something happen. I don’t think it
should just be one or the other.
I think a strong partnership makes
a really big difference.
Great I’d just like to see art
everywhere everywhere. Our ability to display art
is just so much potential that goes.
So what’s getting in the way of that
happening now. I that can’t come fast
and that’s the short answer. Yes a
very difficult to put signage up to
sign up for your studios to provide
for your. So the barrier to getting
things done is to find things that
need to and if they want to make these
things happen. Or maybe if there were
people who have a redesign.
Somebody with a legal background
to work with growth management.
Who does the company because they are
different from what they know has
stood in the way and a very
high level of a performing arts center which
was offered to be gifted by the county
seven years ago. It is can be decided
they wanted to make money off of that.
So they pulled back the offer in
the decision under the logic that they
had to make money and that was more
important than delivering
what they’ve been saying.
So for example the
visual community would love.
So it’s really been a big investment
versus profit investment versus Provident right.
That’s important information. How I
didn’t have health care to
you asking you.
Well I would guess that it’s actually
more important than it has been in
the past because a energy
plan that says to me
it’s on the radar
when you’re asking what usually
forming words that don’t have the answers.
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OK. And I’d like to
see science technology query.
Yes. Yes. The academics the academics
are not free to participate with
culture the way they want to. And that’s
why I’m here to represent the
elite academics in visual art culture
to tell you that now is the time
to lift the restrictions that government
and academia filters out their contribution.
It’s time to end a Yoko Ono
put up her billboard here. Peace is power.
That’s to end war. That’s the government
academic women’s artist revolution
in 1968 to 2019.
Ok.
And I’m here to tell you that it is
time to end war. So the academics
the intellectual artists can freely
participate and create civil rights
for visual art and recycling for their
art materials so they can live and
breathe freely. You have been heard. Ok.
Theres a lot, I mean there is so much more to it.
So any time you’re ready we’re here
to create civil rights for visual arts, artists and…
And that’s great and it is documented,
but we have really a limited time span.
Wow. Nothing could be more important
to battle artificial intelligence with
(Unintelligible) So you guys are here.
I want to hear from everybody in the room.
The people are actually traveling here
specifically to go to an arts festival
not just people that live here.
A few people (unintelligible)
(unintelligible) but people that actually will
travel here just to see these specific things
I think I read the, I
think it was in your article
that art basil, the majority of people flying,
It was more people flying to that
than going to the super bowl, than fly into the
super system. Thats astounding. Three hundred thousand people.
But there’s no reason why that shouldn’t
be able to happen here. Maybe not
300,000 (unintelligible)
(unintelligible) I think just having had
Sort of the events of that stature
nationally and internationally (unintelligible)
the cultural.
Whole!
Ok.
One thing I think would be nice to
be able to travel to Naples is getting
a lot of the national renown arts performing
arts groups to come do sabbaticals
like in the seasonal months so that they
could do a two week master class in October.
Philidelphia symphony or Pittsburg symphony
(unintelligible) I also think some of the really big exhibitions
that go around this country.
It would be huge too. I mean like you
could bring the China show or the
Egypt show or some of those things
that are huge. The blockbusters. Yeah.
back there. I’m going to take you first.
I think part of that too about bringing
people here (unintelligible). One of
the great sources for funding here
is the tourism board. We’ve got lots
of money (unintelligible). The problem is that
You’d be able to guarantee them. The barrier to entry
for that application for that entry is very high.
You’d be able to guarantee overnight stay, generally
multiple overnight stays for your event.
You’re setting the bar so high for a
lot of our groups. We can’t hit that
on the first event. You know I rule
don’t all the resources to get you
know four day long weekend masterclass
intensive retreat.
So that’s how you have to do to get the money from (unintelligible)
(unintelligible) little bit. Give us a table. Well let’s
build, help us build these events.
Right.(unintelligible) went back to the
way it was in the beginning (unintelligible)
You could use some of the funds to advertise
locally as well as right now.
I think you have to go further than Lee county
(unintelligible)
(unintelligible) hundred
hotel rooms or at least one night.
That’s a tall order especially if you’re
a small group. So but loosening or
Or stair stepping some of the guidelines
to increase the capacity of organizations
to build that kind of momentum. Is that
why I’m going back that I’m hearing
but also the funds actually funds it
it’s almost like it’s built out to
deter people from wanting to achieve.
Well part of the reason they should
be an incentives to help help us bring
those events is groups
To the county. (unintelligible)
There was much more money the way that
they had been set up over the years.
They have continually made much smaller
amounts available to the others
and they’ve used more money to fund
all of the history museums because
history museum should be like they
are every other city. A line item in
the budget they don’t all belong in
the GDC budget that they use that as
their slush fund. So there isn’t the
money available to arts organizations
like there used to be.
OK. There’s an artist money availability
of more exhibition space
that maybe doesn’t cost me a fortune
to apply to do with the possibility
of not so with the jury would be able
to resume work or to be able to have
an exhibit right. Like I had the opportunity
(unintelligible)
back and a small space and still be
able to get (unintelligible)
one of the larger
There is only so much space
and there’s so many people grandfathered in.
It’s not really fair.
So. Tell me an example of that.
Just Art in the Park, Art shows on 5th.
(unintelligible)
To be juried into those you’re competing against a
people who are coming around the world that know
that there are a ton of rich people
in Naples (unintelligible)
to sell art to. It pushes local people
out of those shows and into a situation
where the (unintelligible) aren’t such a strict process.
So it’s sort of opening up that tent
and bringing more equity in today.
I don’t know how many festivals there
are like that but I know what you’re
talking about.
(unintelligible)
(unintelligible)
(unintelligible) monthly, first Saturday of the
month and is juried
your juried in you’re able to stay as
a participating artist (unintelligible)
If you don’t participate over
a two year period then (unintelligible)
(unintelligible) very expensive. Those are juried.
Those are juried every year. It is possibly
(Unintelligible)
So let me ask you this. I don’t put
words in your mouth. I want to make
sure I’m understanding this when I
translate the notes so there is the
middle ground between that and a farmers market for
there should operate.
There should be a bigger middle ground
so because there’s more individuals. Right. Okay.
I will make sure I’m understanding
and I think the national the people
that come in. It was
mentioned in the south (Unintelligible)
(Unintelligible)
(Unintelligible)
I don’t see so much wrong with that
as to the opportunity for people to
come from other areas of country to
show their work here and show the diverse
(Unintelligible)
Art that be purchased down here.
Decorative Art and then the inclusion
of work that is not simply decorative
and what I refer to. We don’t need
to be discriminatory. I do what
I call selfish labor (Unintelligible)
(Unintelligible)
So it needs to be
educated to the type of work
(Unintelligible)
Yeah So I think I’ve heard this its sort of expanding
the pallet. Yes exactly.
I’m not even allowed to speak or exhibit
my artwork because it’s so radically new.
I had to fight the government
and the culture centers to ensure they talk.
they exclude me because I’m a modernist.
My culture was grown out of existence
for the last 40 years.
So I’d love to be able to
talk and participate sometime. I invented ways
to recycle artists scrap paint tubes.
(Unintelligible) I’d love to
be able to talk.
City of Naples. I mean the county has so many part.
Why couldn’t there be a
only thing and some didn’t work.
You know what some of the other outlying
areas I mean you can’t
(Unintelligible)
(Unintelligible)
Yeah and they were talking about
it even with some of
the ideas that came up about
Artists and artists and markets that
are sort of you know a main Collier
county program. That’s a good
example of it. Like Montana has
made in Montana and that extends into
fine art. (Unintelligible)
plan has been a provision and help
for emerging artists. OK I noticed
Art community here is quite …..
I never I ain’t saying it that way.
It’s a 10 second career for a lot
of people because (Unintelligible)
and they’re not raising children
they’re not putting every penny aside.
It’s not an endeavor in Collier County
for the average. You have to
have your own financial backing.
Theres not a lot of support for emerging artists.
Theres no tax breaks if your renting studio space.
There’s just not a lot of support.
You have be financially stable (Unintelligible)
as opposed to I’m an artists, this is what I do,
this is how I make my living.
Yeah, You just reminded me of the village of the
artists in Bradenton where they had that program Right.
I mean there’s so many emerging
artist programs all over the country
(Unintelligible)
these opportunities
(Unintelligible)
To work out a deal as long as it’s empty anyway.
(Unintelligible)
Being able to program those spaces.
Yeah (Unintelligible)
I’m gonna go ahead and begin to wrap
it up to tell you of the next.
Well I told you the process so November
we come back to draft ideas and we echo
everything we heard back
There is a hand out in my car (Unintelligible)
(Unintelligible) Yeah sorry I was
running late. I didn’t know how far
I was going to have to walk to get
a giant building from the parking lot.
But I knew Kristen would on top of it.
So the handouts the better way
to get this information because you can’t
write down all those teeny little numbers
up there but the survey the community
survey please do share it. Post something
on your Facebook or whatever
social media you’re on that there is
a community survey about arts and culture.
Get the word out. You can go
to the United Arts Council’s Web page and
if you sign on there you can get updates
on the strategic plan and what’s happening
and that’s it.
Facebook Instagram and Twitter are
all the platforms we hope to utilize
to get the word out. Does anyone have
any final questions about this project.
This is a very weird question but
The wine festival, is that considered cultural,
Because that does bring in people
Theres been no discussion about it
Yes and it is considered cultural (Unintelligible)
Yeah, I would consider that. Its
culinary. Yeah for sure.
I have one last statement, when the city
of Fort Myers asked me if I could
establish civil rights for visual art
artists and art history based on
art history. I came up with
a formula and successfully submitted it to
metaphysical academia and the New
York curation for transgender and its
advocacy called Howl Gallery in New
York City. So they’re all thumbs up
on the creating civil rights that’ll
greatly infuse the art community with
knowledge and empowerment.
Thank you for your comment.
You can speak to it if you’d like to.
When you say culture
the United arts and culture and sciences
because there’s major focus on
performing visual arts.
Less less focus on our
focus is is bigger.
Well I think that’s why we’re bigger
in our culture and science and in
terms of thinking about the science
and debate as far as public private
partnerships with government schools
and private individuals and foundations.
What is trying to it’s also growing
your workforce. It’s keeping kids interested
in science throughout. So they go someplace
and do hands on work with your
parents and schools. We’re not growing
our technology workforce here.
We’re not paying attention to it. I mean
STEM is a big deal with schools.
It was a big deal 15 years ago.
OK
well that’s all I have. Thank you.
Thank you for coming and participate.
He wants the original designs out there.
The studio players. I think they came to that
to make sure that they were OK. Yeah
I brought you a little bit
of information about (Unintelligible)
because I don’t live here.
I have no control here so
I’m going. I will pass it on to them.
Its so wild
They recognized me as genius in 2016
and they’re not allowed to publish the grant
The stuff is so…
Its frightening, or they don’t know what to make of it.
(Unintelligible)
I will pass this on for sure.
Okay. Thank you.
Sorry I brought you some more information.
Ok, great.
And I am, not as like a criminal or civil
complaint but I am registering case
Of racist and sexism discrimination against
The United Artist of Collier County.
OK and I may ask why.
Yes for the assertion of new art history
a new form of art painting art history.
They derailed by attempt to assert it.
(Unintelligible)
how?
I’ll talk to later but read the information first.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you.
